Spline Head

[Pablogrca]

:wave: Hi everyone. I started Larry's Head Spline CD the other day and got pretty far with it.

Larry your tutorials are TOP SHELF MAN! :thumbsup: Very informative and easy to follow, actually I have several of your CD's and I've aways enjoyed your tutorial style, keep up the good work. :rockandro


So here's what I have so far on the head. Splined and patched so far. It looks a little different than the tut, I guess I have more tweeking to do still. I'll keep you posted on the progress. Thanks

Hmmmm, I can't seem to post the pic's right now. I'll have to try later or tomorrow........TO BE CONTINUED

Ok I got it now...something with my browsers encoding I guess. :confused:

[JasC33]

Looks good Pablo.....HAHAHAHA:rofl:

[DAVID WEBSTER]

Wow fantastic Pablo,the invisible man if i could see him i would say he/she looks awesome:)
Regards Dave.

[Joerg]

Awesome start Pablo :thumbsup: :biggrin:


JJ

[SplineGod]

Thanks for the comments Pablo! :)

So far I cant see any mistakes.... ;)

[JasC33]

Hey, That's Cool Pablo, Looking Nice.:thumbsup:

[Pablogrca]

:biggrin: :p You guysssssss!!! LOL, ok I posted the pic's on my first post. :biggrin:

[Pablogrca]

Thanks Jason. I still have to tweek it more but not bad as a first draft I think. :) Oh, hey so your on line right now huh Jason? :cool: :biggrin:
Nice mellons Jason! :drool:

[JasC33]

Thanks Jason. I still have to tweek it more but not bad as a first draft I think. :) Oh, hey so your on line right now huh Jason? :cool: :biggrin:

Yep:biggrin:

[Pablogrca]

hahahaha!!!

[LW4me]

Pablo...heads lookin' good!! Looking forward in seeing more as it progresses.

Like you I have a couple of Larry's DVDs...the man has truly earned his title of "splinegod".

[SplineGod]

Pablo, I stick by what I said the first time. Excellent!
Thats better then what mine looked like out of the chute. :)
Cant wait to see it tweaked. :)

[richdj]

Pablo, really good start... Looking forward to the tweeking...

Rich

[Pablogrca]

Thanks Larry, what can I say I have a great teacher.:biggrin: (You da man! :thumbsup:) Thanks Rich, and LW4me, I'll get to tweeking it more tomorrow and make a post...Thanks again guys :sunsmiley :thumbsup:

[DAVID WEBSTER]

Hey Pablo,looks super,splines and patching spot on,now comes the fun time with stretching,pulling etc those pollys, look forward to your creation:thumbsup: now get a move on and post some more chop chop.
Regards Dave.:biggrin:

[SplineGod]

Thanks Pablo! :)

[Pablogrca]

Wow, I didn't realize it's been about a week since I posted here last. Time sure flys! :)

Things have been a little busy this week so I've been modeling the head off and on and finally finished it earlier today. I also started and finished another head I'll post shortly.

Great tutorials Mr. Shultz :thumbsup: I bought the UV Texturing CD and will be texturing the heads using your tutorials from there and then with UV Netter. I'll keep you posted.

I only had one little problem ( if you want to call it that ).
There are seams showing on the side of the head around the ears and around the eyes. I'll smooth them out before I texturing. No biggie :)

So here they are......Good looking dude huh? :biggrin:

[JasC33]

Looking good Pablo.:thumbsup: Cool looking Dude.

[Pablogrca]

And here is the other head I started earlier. It's a sketch I did on a piece of paper about 3 years ago while being bored at work. I found it in my old sketched pad and decided to model it. I'll keep you posted on this one too. :biggrin:

[Pablogrca]

Here's the sketch.....:biggrin:

[JasC33]

Hey awesome Dude Pablo.:thumbsup: But how does he eat?:confused::biggrin:

[Pablogrca]

Hahahaha, oh your on line Jason? Thanks for the comments. :wave:
He's a blood sucker with a tubeular tongue like a fly's sucker. He drinks the blood after he claws you to death. :biggrin:

[JasC33]

HEHE, My sort of character:biggrin:

[Pablogrca]

Ahhhhhhh, you little blood sucker you. :biggrin: :rofl:

[JasC33]

HAHAHA.... Nothing wrong with a little blood.:biggrin: Better watch out I'm coming....no not that.:biggrin::nana:

[Pablogrca]

:smash: I have a stake for your heart a cross and a bottle of holy water and I'm not affraid to use them Dracula. You'd better keep away!!! (Holding index fingers up in a cross symbol) Back, back I say!!! :rofl:

[JasC33]

I 'm right behind you, Can't you see me?:biggrin: ........Oh no It's getting late, way past my bed time. You were lucky Pablo, Next time.:wave:

[Pablogrca]

LOL. you chicken!!! :biggrin: Affraid of the holy water huh?

I still like those mellons Jason!!!

[JasC33]

I still like those mellons Jason!!![/quote]

Yes I know. That's why I put it back up. Just for you Pablo.:biggrin:

Good Night, Don't let the vampires Bite.:p

[richdj]

cool head, how long did it take to put the head together?

[Pablogrca]

Awwww. Thanks Jason for the mellons, I was getting lonely there for a while. :drool: G-Night, talk to you later, and if androids dream of electric sheep, do vampires dream of plasma shooters??? :biggrin:

Thanks Rich for the comments and for FRONT PAGE again. Dave and Jason will be so jealous. I can see them turning green with envy right now, and their next e-mails will be full of curse words only a sailor would know and them damming me to eternal damnation...(sniff sniff) I'm so hhhappyyyy....(sob sob)... Just kidding guys!!!! :nana:

How long did it take me Rich??? The human head I really don't know, I had been working on all week off and on. The demon head took me about 4 hours to model loosely then about another 2 for tweaking. So about 10 hours total, Oops I mean 6 hours. :biggrin: Thanks again Rich

[richdj]

No problem, as I said excellent work, only 6 hours.... Thats really good... and it's good to see something done 'after the tutorials'.... shows you've learned something and been able to put it into practice...

Rich

[DAVID WEBSTER]

Hey Pablo,face looking awesome he sure is a happy fella,well modelled love it:clap: -----------something strange happening-------arrrrrrrggghhhhhhhhhhh--------turning green---------Pablo's made front page again------------
Well done my friend,well deserved.You should have posted the devil creature on the 6/6/06,i'm off to polish my cross, afraid of what might come next:biggrin:
Regards Dave.
PS your middle names not Damian is it WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[JasC33]

I 'm green with envy Pablo.:pWell Done for making front page.:thumbsup:

[Pablogrca]

Thanks Rich, Dave and Jason :biggrin: :thumbsup:
No my middle name isn't Damian...It's Lucifer, MUAHAhahahaha!!!! :biggrin:

[SplineGod]

Pablo, thats looking great. Its really nice to see you expand upon what youve learned. Theres a couple of tweaks I would do on your first head, could you post it up?
Also, nice concept art. That model should look pretty cool when done. :)

[Pablogrca]

Thank you Mr. Shultz. :)

You want to tweek my already handsome dudes head??? :confused:

Why, why I'd feel honored. Just don't do him ugly huh? :rofl:

Do you have Winrar? Ok here it is ~~~~~~X

Thanks again. :thumbsup:

[richdj]

Pablo:

As were all aware Larry produces some excellent tutorials.. I purchased the modelling part of the character course (as well as a load of others) and I've got to say its way up there as the best money spent (and this was before he droped the price)..

Larry has his own forum, which he uses for giving feedback to those that have purchased the various character, intro to LW and other various tutorials.. As well as expert pointers/feedback, he does take a model and do a few tweeks, so you can see what he would have done... I say a few tweeks, because that is what they are, BUT, you'll be surprised at how much it changes...

If anyone else is remotely interested in character modeling, in any software, get Larrys vids NOW!!

Rich

Although, Larry!!! did I read that you are re-doing the vids for LW9?

[Pablogrca]

Pablo:

Larry has his own forum, which he uses for giving feedback to those that have purchased the various character, intro to LW and other various tutorials.. As well as expert pointers/feedback, he does take a model and do a few tweeks, so you can see what he would have done... I say a few tweeks, because that is what they are, BUT, you'll be surprised at how much it changes...



Which forum Rich? Splinegod.com? I didn't know there is a forum on his home site. I know he's usually on SpinQuads.com and SubDivisonModeling.com too....Is there another I don't know about?
Thanks again :)

[Pablogrca]

:wave: Hello everyone! I put a texture on Dude's head. He's not finished yet though I still need to add hair and facial hair. I did a couple renders and took one of them into Photoshop and tweeked it to get a more devious effect. I still have to work on the maps a bit more but so far I think it looks pretty good, anyway. Check him out.

Oh, those are freckels on his face, not zits or blackheads :biggrin:

I think I'll call him Mr. DVS = (Dude Victor Smalls) :biggrin:

Thanks

[richdj]

Pablo.... Excellent....

Larrys forum is http://support.3dtrainingonline.com/ although some areas are for peeps that have purchased tutes...

Rich

[JasC33]

looking good Pablo.:thumbsup:
Nice freckels. I could lend you my freckels Pablo:biggrin: I don't wont them.:)

[DAVID WEBSTER]

:rockandro Pablo are you going to make it three in a row for front page,you is DA MAN :clap: what am i saying he cannot have three spots can he,AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH.(That green thing again).
Regards Dave

[Pablogrca]

Well, I think we should have access to the other areas don't you Rich? I mean we've all bought his CD's, and some of us have several CD's of his. I think that should qualify us...:biggrin: What do you say Mr. Shultz? Access, Access, Access!!! Thanks Rich...

Jason, thanks mate. About your freckels. Ummm, nawww you keep them. God only knows where they've been and what you washed them with...ewwww. :biggrin:

Dave thanks. Yeah I think 3 times would be a little to much, don't you think???......Nawwwwww!!! I want all 4 spots. :drool: Muhahahahahahaha!!!!! I'm a greedy little Bast*rd aren't I??? Hahahahaha!!! :rofl:

[richdj]

Dave, this thread is already on the front page....

Pablo, Larry uses his forum for his character series and his intro to LW. He also uses it as an alternative to here for general help and help for his IKbooster/LW8 bones CD's..

Rich

[Pablogrca]

Well there you go......I had a question, and it got an answer. :biggrin: :biggrin:

[SplineGod]

Pablo,
The texturing is looking good. I like to start surfacing a head using gradients and procedurals first just to get a basic skin going. Then I use image maps.
You can also surface bake your procedurals and use those to paint on as well. Heres some tests I did using just procedurals ,gradients and weight maps. I used the weight maps as alpha maps to get different procedurals showing up in different areas. Theres no image maps on it.
http://www.3dtrainingonline.com/examples/skin3.jpg
http://www.3dtrainingonline.com/examples/skin_test3.jpg

http://www.3dtrainingonline.com/examples/skin_test4.jpg

http://www.3dtrainingonline.com/examples/skin4.jpg

Also, I did some tweaking on your head mostly around the nose and eyes.
I added some geometry and changed the flow around the bridge of the nose and corners of the mouth. I wanted to get the fleshy area between the nostrils and eye sockets.

Rich, Thanks for the comments on the course material. I am in the process of redoing the material. Right now Im working on the rigging material but everything will be redone. LW9 has sufficient differences to warrant a redo.
If anyone would like to get onto my support forums just drop me an email for the enrollment keys for the sections you want access to.

[Pablogrca]

LOL...You show off Mr. Shultz. :rofl: :nana: Thanks for the tips. Your images look really good. You Da Man!!!
The first images of DVS' head I used your tuts from your UV texturing in LW 3D, and what I already knew about image map texturing. Like you said to do I used Texture Guide and then took the mesh image into Photoshop and went from there. I haven't tried using the gradients or procedural textureing yet I'm fooling around with sasquatch hair but I'm not sure if I'm going to stick with it I may just use polys to get the effect I'm looking for, which I don't really know what it is yet but I'll get it. Then I'll try the gradients and procedurals.
You know what I think would be another good CD for you to do is one on texturing using procedurals, gradients, shaders and weight maps as alphas and also using Vertex paint to apply them. I've looked around and haven't really found a good tut for them yet or one the covers all of them. A little food for thought...:)

The DVS head looks really good. Thanks for the tweeking it you got rid of the lines around the eyes by tweeking the nostril area, I'll have to remember that. Thanks again Mr. Shultz :thumbsup:

[Pablogrca]

:wave: Ok DVS' head is finished I think. I tweeked his head a little more especially around the mouth area the corners of the mouth were to far back the first time.
I used Sasquatch for the hair and procedurals, gradients and the image map for the skin this time. I added a shirt too, I don't really care for the floating head renders, good for testing but not as finished art. Thanks again for the tips Mr. Shultz. :thumbsup:
Now on to something new....:biggrin:

The before and after's

[Pablogrca]

:wires: Here's the wires.....

[JasC33]

Wow!...Awesome stuff Pablo.Well Done.:clap::rockandro

[richdj]

Pablo, Excellent work as usual...

[Pablogrca]

:wave: Thanks Jason and Rich!!! :wave: :thumbsup:

Hey Rich where have you been hiding??? I haven't seen you post lately....Busy making the CD for Wes and us???? Huh??? Huh?????? :biggrin:

[DAVID WEBSTER]

:rockandro Hey Pablo 1st class, well done, as usual with your work you always go the extra mile, all i want to do now is get a pair of scissors and give his eyebrows a trim:biggrin: respect.
Regards Dave

[DAVID WEBSTER]

Oh by the way Rich how is the CD coming along:biggrin:
Regards Dave.

[richdj]

Oh by the way Rich how is the CD coming along:biggrin:
Regards Dave.

CD?

Rich

[Pablogrca]

:rofl: Hahahaha!!! His eye brows are a little bushy aren't they? :rofl: :nana:

[SplineGod]

:wave: Ok DVS' head is finished I think. I tweeked his head a little more especially around the mouth area the corners of the mouth were to far back the first time.
I used Sasquatch for the hair and procedurals, gradients and the image map for the skin this time. I added a shirt too, I don't really care for the floating head renders, good for testing but not as finished art. Thanks again for the tips Mr. Shultz. :thumbsup:
Now on to something new....:biggrin:

The before and after's
Thats looking great Pablo.
Also use a texture to darken the scalp under the hair to help blend it in better. :)

[Pablogrca]

Thats looking great Pablo.
Also use a texture to darken the scalp under the hair to help blend it in better. :)

Thank you Mr. Shultz :thumbsup: :biggrin:
Shouldn't the texture be lighter though like real scalp. I mean when a head is shaved it usually has no tan because of the hair blocking the suns rays.
I'll try both and see which looks best. Thanks again. :wave: